Too small, too slow - that has been the perception of the West Coast midfield over the last couple of seasons.
But with their first two picks in last Thursday's draft, the Eagles hope one of the club's problem areas has been addressed
Taken at Pick 11, Liam Duggan is a hard running midfielder from Bacchus Marsh in Victoria.
He has been likened to Melbourne legend Robbie Flower, while former Eagles champion Dean Kemp is another appropriate comparison.
In his first media conference as a West Coast player he was poised and level headed, characteristics he also displays on the field.
Though he admits he is still coming to terms with the AFL experience.
"It's still a surreal sort of feeling. It still hasn't really sunk in a whole lot," Duggan said.
Having played most of his junior football as a defender, the skilful left footer spent his final year at the Western Jets running through the midfield.
"I enjoy the midfield more and that is obviously where I want to develop into. I think I play my best footy there as well, so the midfield is definitely my goal and that is where I want to play."
That is potentially good news for Adam Simpson and the Eagles coaching staff, who are in need of more A-grade talent on the ball.
The club's second round pick, Tom Lamb, is also from Victoria.
Some draft experts had the tall utility as a top ten pick, but the Eagles swooped with selection 32.
Lamb is a player blessed with athleticism, he can play almost any position on the ground, but sees himself as a high half forward in the mould of his now teammate Jack Darling.
In his last year of under 18's football Lamb spent plenty of time in the midfield, but also showed ability as a key forward, kicking six goals in one game for the Dandenong Stingrays.
"I have been thrown around a lot this year. I think it has been a bit of a challenge at times, but I think its helped my footy a bit as well. It adds a bit of versatility to my game," Lamb said.
"It would be a dream to crack in play a game (this year), but I will just have to work really hard and take it, I suppose, one day at a time," he added.
The Eagles believe, in time, Lamb will be able to play on the wing and through the midfield at AFL level.
With players like Josh Kennedy and Eric Mackenzie, West Coast is blessed with key position talent in defence and attack, and a game-breaker in the middle could see the club return to finals action sooner rather than later.